A. We have a right to look to leadership in the church. This is basically a moral problem and the church is supposed to be the guardian of the morals of the community. The church is the just organized institution in the south. Southerners are quite religious from an institutional point of view. They go to church on Sunday. I see some hope in that area. I think the churches are becoming much more conscious in this problem than ever before. The ministers that say integration is morally sound are so few. The majority group believe firmly in integration and this is the gospel but if they are too vocal they feel that they will lose the churches. The church will immediately call the segregationists to the pastor. Response will be better in the long run. They can influence the mass of the young people in their day to day talks. Some people are willing to stand up and lose a church and be damned, if necessary. It is my idea on even liberalism, if we can use that word. I am afraid that we don’t have enough people in America really committed to integration, not in terms of intellectual assent. Intellectual assent is merely—growing agreeing that something is true. Not really living it. I am afraid that we don’t have enough people in high places committed to it. I think Pres. E. is a man of genuine integrity and good will but on Q. I think Pres. E is a man of the question of integration he doesn’T understand… how this problem is to be worked out, and the dimensions of social change. He thinks it will work itself out in years. I don’t believe he thinks that segregation is the best condition of society. I think he believes it would be a fine thing to have an integrated society but I think he probably feels that the more you push it, the more tension it will create so you just wait 50 or 100 years and it will work itself out. I don’t think he feels like being a crusader for integration.
A. We have a right to look to leadership in the church. This is basically a moral problem and the church is supposed to be the guardian of the morals of the community. The church is the just organized institution in the south. Southerners are quite religious from an institutional point of view. They go to church on Sunday. I see some hope in that area. I think the churches are becoming much more conscious in this problem than ever before. The ministers that say integration is morally sound are so few. The majority group believe firmly in integration and this is the gospel but if they are too vocal they feel that they will lose the churches. The church will immediately call the segregationists to the pastor. Response will be better in the long run. They can influence the mass of the young people in their day to day talks. Some people are willing to stand up and lose a church and be damned, if necessary. It is my idea on even liberalism, if we can use that word. I am afraid that we don’t have enough people in America really committed to integration, not in terms of intellectual assent. Intellectual assent is merely—growing agreeing that something is true. Not really living it. I am afraid that we don’t have enough people in high places committed to it. I think Pres. E. is a man of genuine integrity and good will but on Q. I think Pres. E is a man of the question of integration he doesn’T understand… how this problem is to be worked out, and the dimensions of social change. He thinks it will work itself out in years. I don’t believe he thinks that segregation is the best condition of society. I think he believes it would be a fine thing to have an integrated society but I think he probably feels that the more you push it, the more tension it will create so you just wait 50 or 100 years and it will work itself out. I don’t think he feels like being a crusader for integration.